{"id":103,"date":"2019-03-18T01:40:48","date_gmt":"2019-03-18T01:40:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lacan.com\/symptom\/?page_id=103"},"modified":"2024-05-22T15:05:54","modified_gmt":"2024-05-22T15:05:54","slug":"gala-interview","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.lacan.com\/symptom\/gala-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Gala Interview"},"content":{"rendered":"

[vc_row][vc_column][vc_single_image image=”815″ alignment=”center” onclick=”custom_link” link=”https:\/\/www.lacan.com\/lacan1.htm”][vc_single_image image=”212″ img_size=”full” alignment=”center” onclick=”custom_link” link=”https:\/\/www.lacan.com\/symptom\/”][vc_empty_space height=”70″][vc_single_image image=”84″ img_size=”full” alignment=”center”][vc_custom_heading text=”Gala, Carlos, Caty Monnier, Dal\u00ed Estate” font_container=”tag:h6|text_align:left|color:%2311004f” google_fonts=”font_family:Forum%3Aregular|font_style:400%20regular%3A400%3Anormal”][vc_empty_space height=”100″][vc_custom_heading text=”ALEX KAYSER INTERVIEWS GALA” font_container=”tag:h2|text_align:center|color:%2311004f” google_fonts=”font_family:Forum%3Aregular|font_style:400%20regular%3A400%3Anormal”][vc_empty_space height=”100″][vc_column_text]<\/p>\n

Gala \u2013 You have more hair then today. And straight, no curls<\/span><\/h4>\n

Alex \u2013 No, it\u2019s a bit curly. It\u2019s always curly, but the wind makes it straight. A lot of wind.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 It\u2019s the wind in the house.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes. It comes in. I was running and so there was wind. I was running through.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G – Hmm<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 *Referring to photograph* It\u2019s roulette. A restaurant. These people, they brought me up here to play roulette, operative roulette.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 You play?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 And you lost?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 No, I won. I won an operative martini.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 So that you win.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 It\u2019s a very nice restaurant in Milano.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 And that\u2019s what this is.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A – It looks like a stage to a puppet theater, but what it really is I don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t speak Italian.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 it\u2019s a restaurant?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yess, the restaurant is downstairs.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 So the people eat and play at the same time?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 No they eat downstairs, but the operative is up there.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 And that\u2019s what is there?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes, you throw the arrows.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 *reading something in Italian*<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 What is that you read?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 I don\u2019t really know. Other people translate it for me. I understand it and then I forget it again.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Kingbees, and what means it? Zak and Kingbees. Zak is you?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 It could be. Zak is a dog.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 What?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Zak is the dog.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Ahh. Kingbee is you?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Kingbee could be me. Zak and Kingbee is me and the people I\u2019m working with. It\u2019s like a group. And I leave my name away.<\/span><\/h4>\n

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\nGypsy Girls, Dal\u00ed Estate” font_container=”tag:h6|text_align:left|color:%2311004f” google_fonts=”font_family:Forum%3Aregular|font_style:400%20regular%3A400%3Anormal”][vc_empty_space height=”70″][vc_column_text]<\/p>\n

G \u2013 And what do you do?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 I make video films and pictures like this.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 You\u2019re a photographer.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 And performance. Performance also.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 But, what kind of performance? You sing?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes and I run. And for example I did a song. A rock n\u2019 roll song.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Rock n\u2019 roll?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes, and a Kingbee. That means there are no Kingbees, only queens. Female.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 You\u2019re a queen? Queen is woman but you are a man.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 I am man, yeah. That\u2019s why I\u2019m a Kingbee<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 That\u2019s right you\u2019re a king, not queen.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 In in nature it does not exist. Only bees. Bees are females, the queens.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 \u201cBee\u201d is?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Bzzzzz, honey.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 That\u2019s right. Honey.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 *speaking in Spanish*<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 I understood. Queen of the\u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Of the bees.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Bees. So you are queen of the bees?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 In a way.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 A little suspicious, huh? That is Milano, no?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes. Right.<\/span><\/h4>\n

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G \u2013 *Referring to photograph* In this it is winter time, no? Is there snow here?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 No, no it\u2019s a reflection. It\u2019s wet. It has been raining. So it\u2019s wet. The ground is wet.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 No, that\u2019s\u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 It\u2019s a reflection. The sky is reflecting in the street.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Hmm\u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Why is no reflection and why is reflection here?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Well it does reflect a little bit. You see\u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 That is wool\u2026or is snow?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 It looks like snow. But it\u2019s a reflection of the sky in the street because the street is wet.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 It cannot be so white.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Maybe I tricked it in the dark room. Maybe I wanted you to think it\u2019s snow.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Ahh, good good good.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 They do the photo any way. It\u2019s not so precise.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yeah, it is painted but it is very rough. It\u2019s not the colors I want, in the negative.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 It\u2019s painted?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes. It\u2019s photographed black and white and the color is painted on.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Ahh, then it\u2019s overpaint?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Overpaint.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 You color it then?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A – \u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 But nobody does the photo of somebody\u2026everybody do any way?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013And it\u2019s you who did it, this composition?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 You do photos\u2026do photo here..and photo here\u2026and photo here\u2026and photo here\u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 And this, what is that?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Well, I\u2019m curious what it is. I don\u2019t know.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Oh you don\u2019t know?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 No, it is one of the miracles\u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Ah you know what it is?<\/span><\/h4>\n

Girlfriend \u2013\u00a0 I have no idea. I wondered all the time.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 *indistinct talking*<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 It looks like a tree.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Tree? No no. This is like, we have here\u2026it\u2019s not. It\u2019s done with these circles, see? But not in this matter. *indistinct talking*<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 And this fabric?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yeah, maybe it belongs to me you know?<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Oh yes?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Since I photographed it, it does.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 No. The photograph, that belongs to you. But fabric belong to you, or no?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 No, not yet. I like this fabric. This is my fabric. This fabric, this like that.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 this fabric here?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes.<\/span><\/h4>\n

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G \u2013 the other I would like to have also. Why not? So you work and then you receive the money. That\u2019s all.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 *referring to photo* That is you, yes?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 With the long hair.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 \u00a0*referring to photo* That is Dal\u00ed?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes.<\/span><\/h4>\n

Girlfriend \u2013 Its near the swimming pool. Where the swimming pool is.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Here. Ah swimming pool. oh yes yes yes. Here. Yes yes yes<\/span><\/h4>\n

girlfriend \u2013 and those two girls are the gypsy girls.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Oh yes. Oh yes. Dali told me.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 And that\u2019s you?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 No. A German boy.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 That is a girl, yeah?<\/span><\/h4>\n

Girlfriend – It\u2019s a boy. It\u2019s a boy.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 That is a boy?<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 But he has too much\u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

Girlfriend \u2013 It\u2019s very colored.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Hmmm.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 So you\u2019re a photographer?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Also.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Huh?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Also. I am also a photographer.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 But what are you first?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Well, everything. I used to be a photographer, straight. But now I like more actor\u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 You\u2019re a painter?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 You\u2019re a writer?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Not a writer. Not with words.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 You\u2019re a poet?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Well, I do narrative work where I write underneath the photograph.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 No, poet. Do you know what?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes. I don\u2019t write poetry.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 That is not enough to be a poet.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Well, this is not a poetic piece. Let\u2019s say it that way.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 No, but that\u2019s\u2026*indistinct words*<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 You choose the model?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes. It\u2019s an English model.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Do you know Frances Burgen?<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Burgen. Yes.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 And that\u2019s Beckley. Bill Beckley. It\u2019s you?<\/span><\/h4>\n

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A \u2013 It\u2019s Bill Beckley in New York. Young artist.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Who?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 He\u2019s an artist.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Yes, but what does he do?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 He does narrative work. He works with photography.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Yes, then he\u2019s a photographer.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Why do you want to call it?<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 *laughs* No, artist is a general name. You can be painter, you can sing, you can draw.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 So is Dali a painter or an artist?<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 How you know him? He\u2019s painter or not?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 He\u2019s painter. But he\u2019s also an artist.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 I suppose, I think, I think. I don\u2019t know.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Are the photographers, are they artists, or not?<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 *indistinct talking*<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 So the photographers are not artists?<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 I don\u2019t tell nothing. I have my mouth closed. I don\u2019t answer you because if I tell you the truth, you will be immediately revolted.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 No.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 I already recognize your character\u2026you might be..etc, etc\u2026you are very volatile.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Then it\u2019s better not to touch.<\/span><\/h4>\n

Girlfriend \u2013 it\u2019s good to touch, it doesn\u2019t matter.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 Typical for the artist? For whom, typical?<\/span><\/h4>\n

Girlfriend \u2013 Typical for the artist.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 For the artist? No, then he\u2019s not volatile.<\/span><\/h4>\n

Girlfriend \u2013 No? Well\u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 *referring to photograph* Very simple. Very amber.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 That is you?<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 You see, I don\u2019t recognize. But you\u2026<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 I have a hat. That\u2019s why I look different.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 The hair should go out, but you put inside.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes, yeah.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 That is to make this photo like art.<\/span><\/h4>\n

A \u2013 Yes, oh you\u2019re very\u2026so clever.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G \u2013 First, it\u2019s not necessary to be very intelligent. Even a little intelligent to know what you are. That\u2019s not what you are. I see you\u2026*indistinct words*\u2026I discover immediately that you are very volatile.<\/span><\/h4>\n

G – *giddy laughter*<\/span><\/h4>\n

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